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536870912. Hamon Massey I , son of Sir William De La Ferté-Macé Sn De La Ferté-Macé and Miss De Conteville Burgh, was born in 1076 in Dunham, Massey, Cheshire, England and died in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire Dist., England.

General Notes: Biography:
Hamon, l is thought to be the founder of the Mascy (Massey) family. The seat of his holdings was the Village of Dunham and his family lived at Dunham Massey Hall. His title was Baron de Dunham and his descendents would continue to live at Dunham Massey Hall until after 1458, when it became the possession of the Booth Family by marriage to a Massey Heiress.
At the time Hamon Lived at Dunham Massey Hall it was a three winged Manor, in the shape of a "U", surrounded by a Moat. The extensive grounds outside the Moat contained a Deer Park, Orchards, a River and several Fishing Ponds.
Later owners made many changes and it bears little resemblance to the origional Massey homestead. It now belongs to the British National Trust and is open to the public. It is located four miles south-west of Altrincham, which is a suburb of Manchester.
Sites obtained by Hamon l, in addition the the house in Chester and land in Wirrall peninsula, were Ullerton or Owlarton. It is located approx. two miles south-southeast from the town of Knutsford. Going northwest to the Mersey River, Northeast to Bramhall or Bromhale, which is those days would have been two miles s/w from Stockport, Thence below Stockport to the Mersey River.
With these two lines denoting the s/e/ and s/w/ boundary and the Mersey River being the northern boundary of an area having a triangular shape. At about the midway point of the northern boundary on the Mersey River would be the river crossing to the City of Manchester original location in Lancaster, which lies to the north of Chester.
This probably marks the area with the greatest holding of the Barons de Mascy in Cheshire. With these lands Hamon de Mascy had lesser Lords who held portions thereof for him or under his "right"
Examples would be Adae de Carrington and Alano de Tatton. Both constituted Estates granted to Hamon.
In 1092 King William Rufus was a guest at the Court of Hugh Lupus in Chester, at least two of his Barons attended the King, Hamon de Mascy and William Venables. They along with their entourage of adherents and servants of Hamon's, accompanied the King on a hunting expedition in the Wirrall Peninsula.
This probably took place on lands which had been set aside as a hunting preserve of the King and treated as his possession, which had not been the subject of a grant, not even to Earl Hugh Lupus.
No doubt it was a consequence of some occurrence on this hunting expedition that a new estate was given to Hamon l, in fee of Hugh Lupus. Pottington, the area which is called today the village of Puddington, was granted by the King himself, so that there after the de Mascy Cheshire Barons held it in fee of the King rather than in fee of the Earl.
For that reason Pontington was in later years especially prized. One can only speculate why King William Rufus made this generous grant. However, as soon as the Hunting party returned to Hugh Lupus' Castle at Chester, Hamon sought out a scrivener, possibly a Monk whose duties were appropriate to the purpose of recording as follows:
"I, William, King of England do give onto Mascy all my right, interest and title to the hop and hopland (Valley land) from me and mine with bow and arrow, when I shoot upon yerrow (the Place), and in witness to the sooth (action or statement) I seal with my wang tooth."
Inscribed as witness was William Venables "fratre suo".
In the consideration given to the first Hamon de Mascy it should be remembered that he was a part of the court and governing body of nobles in Cheshire at a time when it was a county Palatinate under Earl Hugh Lupus.
What this means is, that it's rule was like that under a country under martial law. At least Earl Hugh Lupus was not hampered by either King William the Conqueror or King William Rufus and he reigned in Cheshire as King. The Barons and their Lords were almost constantly put to defend against the Welsh on Cheshire's western border and to maintain control over the Saxons who made up the bulk of the population.
Hammon Massey, the first Baron of Dunham-Massey, held the towns of Dunham, Bowden, Hale, Ashley and half of Owlerton in Bucklow Hundred, under Hugh Lupus, Earl of Cheshire in the reign of William the Conqueror. All of which one Edward held formerly, as appears by Domesday Book. So it appears this Edward was dispossessed of his right herein and these lands given to Harmon by Hugh Lupus.
Harmon also had land in Maxfield, Hundred, Bromal and Pudding ton, in Virally Hundred and other places, at the same time.
Source. From the History of Cheshire, by Sir Petrer Leycester.

Research Notes: Dunham Massey

A township in Bowdon Parish, Bucklow Hundred (SJ 7388). In 1920 the Olffield Brow area was transferred to Altrincham civil parish, and further parts were lost in 1936. In 1974 Dunham Massey was transferred to the borough of Trafford in the county of Greater Manchester.
Includes the hamlets of Dunham Town, Dunham Woodhouses, Oldfield Brow (until 1920) and Sinderland Green.
The population was 872 in 1801, 1255 in 1851, 2644 in 1901 and 523 in 1951.

Churches and Chapels:

Bowdon, St. Mary (C of E).
Dunham Massey, St. Margaret (C of E). Built 1855, serving the township of Dunham Massey. Registers of baptisms 1855-1935 and marriages 1856-1932 are at the CRO.

Dunham Town, St. Mark (C of E). Built 1864 as a chapel of ease to St. Margaret's, a separate parish from 1873. Registers of baptisms 1866-1915, Marriages 1867-1983 and burials 1921-1953 are at the CRO.

Dunham Massey, All Saints (C of E). A Chapel of ease to St. Margaret's. Founded c. 1890, closed 1911. Registers of baptisms 1891-1911 are at St. Margaret's.

Dunham Massey, Methodist Chapel (Primitive). Built 1875.

Altrincham, St. John the Evangelist (C of E).

Sinderland Green, Methodist Chapel ( Wesleyan). Built 1881

Electoral Districts:

North Cheshire (1832-67); Mid Cheshire (1868-85); Altrincham (1885-1945); Bucklow (1945-48); Knutsford (1949-74).

Poor Law Unions:
Altrincham (1836-95); Bucklow (1895-1930).

Registration Districts:
Altrincham (1837-98); Bucklow (1898-1974); Trafford 1974+).

Hamon married Margaret Sacie about 1093 in England.

Children from this marriage were:

268435456       i.  Sir Hammon De Massey II (born about 1100 Dunham, Lancashier, England - died after 1140 in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire Dist., England)
               ii.  Robert De Massey (born after 1093 England)


536870913. Margaret Sacie , was born in 1075 in Dunham, Massey, Cheshire, England and died on an unknown date.

General Notes: Alt Name: Margaret De Sees (Sacie)

Margaret married Hamon Massey I about 1093 in England.


536870914. Sir Robert De Beaumont 1st Earl Leicester , son of Roger De Beaumont Earl Of Meulan [Count Of Beaumont] and Adeline De Meulan Cts De Meulan [Countess Of Meulan], was born in 1060 in Of, Pont Audemer, Brittany, France died on 5 Jun 1118 in Leicestershire, England, at age 58, and was buried in Preaux, Normandy, France. Another name for Sir was Robert De Beaumont De Meulan Earl Of Leicester.

General Notes: 1st Earl of Leicester. Seigneur of Beaumont, Pont-Audemer, Vatteville and Brionne in Normandy, and from 1081 Count of Meulan in the French Vexin.

He was a companion of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, and received large grants in Warwickshire, with others in Leicestershire, Northamptonshire and Wiltshire. After William died he was loyal to William Rufus, but quarrelled with Robert of Normandy over the castellanship of Brionne. This resulted in his imprisonment, but his father was able to arrange his release and obtain Brionne in fee. Once he succeeded to his father's interestes he was one of the most powerful vassals of King William Rufus, serving him as one of the chief lay ministers. When William Rufus invaded the French Vexin in 1097 he used the fortresses of the comte of Meulan as his staging area. Robert opposed Robert Curthose in 1098.
Robert de Beaumont then became one of the chief advisors of King Henry I. Having taken a mortgage on the estates of Ives de Grandmesnil about 1102, he retaine dthem when de Grandmesnil died on crusade; these included a quarter of the town of Leicester and other properties in Leicestershire, Hertfordshire, Warwickshire and Northamptonshire.
In 1104 he supported Henry I in Normandy; he was at Tenchebrai on 28 Sept. 1106. In 1110 he was besieged at Meulan by King Louis VI of France, who took the castle by storm, but the following year Robert plundered Paris.


Alt Name: Robert De Beaumont De Meulan Earl Of Leicester
Alt Birth: Abt 1049 Pont-Audemer (Beaumont), Normandy, France

From: Hyacinth@frost.snowhill.com (Jae Fleming)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Subject: Companions of William the C reposted
Date: 20 Feb 1999 02:20:41 -0800


At 08:53 AM 2/19/99 -0500, Bill Martin wrote:
>Dear Todd A. Farmerie,
>
>I have a couple of questions for you, prompted by your recent posts...
>Who are the two dozen people known by name who fought with William the
>Conqueror at Hastings? Please list source(s) too.

Bill,
I saved this portion of an earlier post to the list, which I believe from
from Mr. Farmerie:

The list was published in CP. It has also been posted here (several
times, I suspect), including the following from Mr. Reitwiesner:

>> The Falaise Roll is not an accurate list. The list of persons actually
>> known to have been at the Battle of Hastings on the side of William the
>> Conqueror is printed in the second edition of Cokayne's *Complete Peerage*,
>> vol XII, Part I, Appendix pp. 47-48, as part of Appendix L. Numbers 1-12
>> are recorded by William of Poitiers, number 13 is portrayed in a battle
>> scene in the Bayeux Tapestry, and 14 and 15 are named by Orderic. 16-19
>> were in William's army and almost certainly at the battle (16 named by
>> William of Poitiers, 17-19 portrayed in the Bayeux Tapestry), but there is
>> no direct statement that they actually were at the Battle of Hastings.
>> Number 20 is stated by Orderic to have taken part in fights in the English
>> war before William became King.
>>
>> 1. Robert de Beaumont, afterwards Count of Meulan and Earl of Leicester
>> 2. Eustace, Count of Boulogne
>> 3. William, afterwards 3rd Count of Evreux
>> 4. Geoffrey of Mortagne, afterwards Count of Perche
>> 5. William FitzOsbern, afterwards Earl of Hereford
>> 6. Aimery, vicomte of Thouars
>> 7. Hugh de Montfort, seigneur of Montfort-sur-Risle
>> 8. Walter Giffard, seigneur of Longueville
>> 9. Ralph de Toeni, seigneur of Conches
>> 10. Hugh de Grandmesnil, seigneur of Grandmesnil
>> 11. William de Warenne, afterwards Earl of Surrey
>> 12. William Malet, seigneur of Graville
>> 13. Eudes, Bishop of Bayeux, afterwards Earl of Kent
>> 14. Turstin FitzRou
>> 15. Engenulf de Laigle, seigneur of Laigle
>> 16. Geoffrey de Mowbray, Bishop of Coutances
>> 17. Robert, Count of Mortain, afterwards Earl of Cornwall
>> 18. Wadard
>> 19. Vital
>> 20. Goubert d'Auffay, seigneur of Auffay
>>
>> For further information, see the source I cited above, and the sources
>> cited there.
Robert de Bellomont came into England with the Conqueror, and contributed mainly to the Norman triumph at Hastings. This Robert inherited the Earldom of Meullent in Normandy, from his mother Adeliza de Waleran. Of his conduct at Hastings it is said: "A certain Norman young soldier, making his first onset in that fight, did what deserved lasting fame, boldly charging and breaking in upon the enemy, with that regiment which he commanded in the right wing of the army." For these gallant services he obtained sixty-four lordships in Warwickshire, and many others in Leicester, Wilts, Northampton, Gloucester, in all ninety-one. His lordship did not, however, arrive at the dignity of the English peerage before the reign of Henry I, when that monarch created him Earl of Leicester.

Noted events in his life were:

1. Fact 1: 1st Earl Of Leicester. Also Count Of Meulan In The French Vexin.

2. Occupation. Earl of Mellent Count of Meulan and Earl of Leicester

3. Fact 2: Buried At Abbey Of Preaux, Pontaudemer, Normandy.

4. Fact 3: Seigneur DE Beaumont, Pont-Audemer, Vatteville, & Brionne.

5. Fact 4: Lord Norton.

6. Fact 5: 1066, Companion Of William The Conqueror At Hastings.

Sir married Isabelle De Vermandois Princess Of France, daughter of Hugues "Le Grand" De Count Of Vermandois France [Count Of Vermandois] and Adelle (Adelaide) Countess Vermandois, in 1096 in France. Isabelle was born about 1082 in Of, Valois, Brittany, France, died on 13 Feb 1146-1147 in St. Nicaise-DE-Meulan, France, about age 64, and was buried on 17 Feb 1131 in Lewes, Sussex, England. Another name for Isabelle was Isabella Capet De Crépi De Vermandois.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Agnes De Beaumont (born about 1270 Of, Beaumont, Maine, France)
               ii.  Aubrey De Beaumont (born about 1099-1100 Beaumont, Normandy, France - died)
              iii.  Isabel (Elizabeth) De Beaumont (born between 1086 and 1096 Leicester, Leicestershire, England - died about 1147)
               iv.  Waleran , Count Of Meulan [Twin] [Earl] (born in 1104 Meulan, Ile DE France, France - died on 10 Apr 1166 in Abbey, Preaux, Normandy, France)
                v.  Robert "Bossu" De Earl Of Leicester [Twin] Beaumont Earl Of Leicester (born in 1104 Leicester, Leicestershire, England - died on 5 Apr 1168 in England)
               vi.  Miss De Beaumont (born about 1104 Leicester, Leicestershire, England)
              vii.  Hugh De Beaumont [Earl Of Bedford (born about 1106 Leicester, Leicestershire, England)
             viii.  Amicade De Beaumont (born about 1112 Of, Leicester, Leicestershire, England)
               ix.  Havoise De Beaumont (born about 1110 Leicester, Leicestershire, England)
                x.  Maud De Beaumont (born about 1114 Leicester, Leicestershire, England - died)
               xi.  Adeline (Gundrea) De (Bellmont) Beaumont Of Meulan (born about 1124 Of, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England - died)

Sir next married Emma De Breteuil, about 1070. Emma was born about 1046.

Sir next married Godeheut De Toeni, before 1096. Godeheut De Toeni died in 1097.

Sir next married Amice De Montfort.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Isabel (Elizabeth) De Beaumont (born in 1110 - died in 1172)
268435457      ii.  Eleanor De Beaumont (born in 1100 England - died on an unknown date)
              iii.  Margaret De Beaumont (born in 1118 Flamsted, Hertfordshire, England - died in 1185)
               iv.  Mabel De Beaumont (born in 1120 - died on an unknown date)


536870915. Amice De Montfort , daughter of Ralph De Gael De Montfort and Avise Fitzosborn, was born in 1080 and died on an unknown date.

Amice married Sir Robert De Beaumont 1st Earl Leicester.


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